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NOTE: If you want to learn trend following techniques and systems through advanced home study and or seminars for all traders click here. If you want to learn about trend following trading in general there is one definitive text the bestselling classic "Trend Following: Learn to Make Millions in Up or Down Markets" by Michael Covel. If you want to learn about the most famous group of trained trend following traders, the Turtles and their teacher Richard Dennis, "The Complete TurtleTrader" by Michael Covel is the only complete biography (with all of the Turtle rules) available. If you have any questions you can reach us immediately via phone or email.

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NOTE: If you want to learn trend following techniques and systems through advanced home study and or seminars for all traders click here. If you want to learn about trend following trading in general there is one definitive text the bestselling classic "Trend Following: Learn to Make Millions in Up or Down Markets" by Michael Covel. If you want to learn about the most famous group of trained trend following traders, the Turtles and their teacher Richard Dennis, "The Complete TurtleTrader" by Michael Covel is the only complete biography (with all of the Turtle rules) available. If you have any questions you can reach us immediately via phone or email.

Stocks and Commodities Magazine Endorsement

Review excerpt:

While TurtleTrader.com is obviously devoted to Trend Following, what makes the method work is not the genius of the website developers, nor the genius of Richard Dennis or other traders identified with Turtle trading. In some ways, the secrecy to which many original Turtles were sworn has confused the issue of Turtle trading, making the methodology seem more clandestine and complex than it really is, while providing an unfortunate platform for less scrupulous promoters to offer the secret of Turtle trading to aspiring, yet unsuspecting, traders. As one of the administrators of TurtleTrader.com suggested in e-mail, all Turtle trading amounts to, in the end, is trend-following. Indeed, there were successful trend-followers long before Richard Dennis and William Eckhardt's Turtle trading experiment, according to that administrator: 'To some degree, we see the question as a continuation of the secrecy hype first revealed in Schwager's books. Great books, indeed, but the secrecy part of Turtles and trend following was misleading...Given that so many other trend-followers were kicking butt at the same time of the Turtles' creation...Turtle trend-following is not a secret. It simply takes proper teaching.' And that is good news for all of us.
David Penn, Staff Writer STOCKS & COMMODITIES

Business Week and Trend Following

Placing Bets in a Volatile World

As you read the article at the above link note the confusing use of the term futures funds. The article should be speaking of trend following ...

Welling@Weeden Writer Peter Deoteris Drops the Ball on Trend Following

Kate Welling runs a well-respected newsletter called Welling@Weeden. One of her writers Peter Deoteris recently reviewed the book Trend Following. We quickly thanked Kate for the review letting her know that ...

Think!

Ah, what a nice web site! Lots of impressive words...Simple logic defeats you. If all take your advice on trending, all will equally loose, due to no trending when all think they see the same trend...Warren Buffett has always been right: buy ...

New Client Feedback on Psychology

It always amazes me how few people make any money at this game even though successful methods are available. The reason is that MOST PEOPLE AREN'T TRADING TO MAKE MONEY. They think they are, but the fact is they're trying to fulfill some other needs: for excitement, gambling, feeding their ...

Reporter Loses It

Life is unfair: No one can read the TurtleTrader site for long before the statement, Trading is a zero-sum game starts to sound familiar. It's a fact that that some people win in the market and some people lose, and as our readers know, we like facts. The market is unfair just as life is unfair. Not everyone is equal nor is everyone going to get their fair share. To approach trading as a battle for survival makes it easier to accept another fact which is that those people who work the hardest at trading will win. Now that is fair.

Buy and hold - the lazy approach: Enter a reporter for a major financial web site. This reporter contacted TurtleTrader seeking an opinion about the downsides of buy and hold approaches given the dramatic NASDAQ declines during the bubble. Obviously, if you bought and held the NASDAQ for the last few years, you lost money. We told our new friend that investors and traders must have a strategy. If the last few years of watching the NASDAQ tank taught investors anything, it is that buy and hold is not the greatest of strategies. We even went so far to opine that buy and hold is not a strategy at all, but rather an excuse to be lazy with your thinking and your money in the market. You can always say I buy and hold. Sounds nice and comforting, maybe even slightly sophisticated.

What do I do if life's unfair?: The reporter wanted to know what must investors do now? She wanted to know what we are advising investors to do who bought technology stocks, got slaughtered and are now burdened with mega losses. She asked us for specific advice for the investor who has been killed and now doesn't know what to do (gamblers anonymous). She wanted forecasts about what would happen next year.

You accept reality and move on: We replied there are no forecasts for next year. No one can forecast the future. You can only react to the present. Furthermore, people need to have a strategy that has an exit point before they ever enter the market. Know when you are going to exit before you enter. Become smart. Lose your Las Vegas quick riches mind set. Stop day trading. We pointed out that there are clear strategies you can use to exit markets at proper times that enhance profitability. We added that buy and hold approaches must be rejected as irrational, except, of course, for people expecting to live forever.

Reality is hard to accept: Our new friend, who contacted us for an opinion, went ballistic. She proceeded to begin a wide ranging debate that is a common response and offers interesting clues as to why people lose in the market. Some of her more strident observations:

  • She asked if we were calling her stupid. She accused TurtleTrader of not worrying about all traders. She seemed to imply that investing must be a socialist exercise. We advised that people need a strategy.
  • She wanted to know why day trading was bad. She knew plenty of people who day traded and it was a viable strategy. She berated us for not giving day trading a fair shake.
  • She wanted to know what the single mother with three kids who worked all the time was supposed to do. (We wondered if TurtleTrader was a candidate for political office.) We calmly replied that the market doesn't care who you are, so you need a strategy. She was literally screaming that this was not fair.
  • She retorted that people no longer listen to brokers in this new age of investing. We told her that tips from brokers were still a problem. Once we stated that broker's tips were still a problem she asked us to cite a study. If we could cite her a study that broker's tips were still a problem, our response would be front page news in her opinion.

At this point we politely ended the interview. Why pass this story along? Because for those who truly want to win at trading, it is always nice to be reminded that in the zero-sum game people like this reporter exist in droves. She presents a case study of all of the emotional and psychological roadblocks losing investors possess. We wish her the best, but she is destined to keep losing.

Aussie Dollar Dive II

Yesterday we posted an article about the Australian dollar dive down. Today, we post excerpts from the article mentioned in the Sun-Herald along with our editorial comments.
Dennis [Richard Dennis' trading firm] did ...

Aussie Dollar Dive I

We recently spoke with a top reporter for one of Australia's largest daily newspapers (Sun-Herald). After reading this exchange you will come away with a clearer understand of the wrong way to view to the market. The reporter is asking the ...

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